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    jimmerjimmerjimmerjimmer SactoIV's Avatar
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    J.J. Hickson

    He is averaging 12.3 points on 57.7% shooting and 10.8 boards per game for a pretty solid Portland team.

    If this is not an indictment of the coaching staff and the front office, then I don't know what is.






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    Quote Originally Posted by SactoIV View Post
    He is averaging 12.3 points on 57.7% shooting and 10.8 boards per game for a pretty solid Portland team.

    If this is not an indictment of the coaching staff and the front office, then I don't know what is.
    I've watched Hickson this year, he's not much better.

    He still forces the issue and takes wild shots. So he can rebound. Big deal. He's still raw offensively IMO.

    I still have my doubts as to whether Hickson can lead a team anywhere, maybe a 1st round series win.

    He should drop down to 54% before the year is over.

    Besides, Hickson wants a big contract after this year, that's why he took a one year deal. The Kings aren't in a position to add another longterm salary.













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    His Cousin stalked me on Twitter for weeks after I said some bad shit about JJ. He was annoying, but, he did say that JJ hated the Kings organization and couldn't wait to get out and didn't give a full effort during his short tenure here.











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    Quote Originally Posted by Eze View Post
    His Cousin stalked me on Twitter for weeks after I said some bad shit about JJ. He was annoying, but, he did say that JJ hated the Kings organization and couldn't wait to get out and didn't give a full effort during his short tenure here.
    Sorry about that.

    I look at him the same way I would a Varejao or Nick Collison or Lorenzen Wright.

    You can get a player like that anytime.

    Right now, the focus should be on seeing if Evans, Cousins, Fredette, or Robinson can become a superstar, or if they can trade them for a high draft pick that will become one.

    Another average player on the Kings isn't going to make them better.













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    Well I dont blame him 1 bit. Our organization is a joke. Funny he starts in Cleveland( Bad team) starts in Portland ( good team) comes of the bench in Sac(worst team) We dont know how to use talent at all. Not sayign JJ has all the tools but he coulda brought something to the table. Right now his rebounding would truelly help us more than anything






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    In fairness, JJ's pretty much hated every place he's played, in some capacity. Hated Cleveland but then loved Cleveland and then hated it again, lol.











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    I agree with Nura...his numbers are nice but he isn't that good of a player. He can easily have his numbers dip as he depends on athleticism rather than skill. Not many moves down low, no perimeter game, and he is trigger happy with the ball. Things are working now, and he has been given some great opportunities to score. He is going to want nearly $10M a year so thats bad money waiting to happen. Plus his attitude can always come out to haunt whoever signs him.

    I do think that he was poorly utilized here though. Westphal gave him a bit of free reign, but he forced a lot of bad shots and was not getting many boards. When Smart took over, he benched him which pissed Hickson off and the friction never recovered. It was an experiment that didn't work, but I'm happy with JT at the 4 over Hickson anyhow. He is more well rounded. Plus Casspi has continued to suck nut balls down in Cleveland...its just the first round pick the Kings threw in as a kicker was a huge downside. Stupid Petrie.






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    Jason Thompson also costs about 1/2 of what Hickson will cost, is durable, and his PER is almost as good. Thompson might not be as good of a rebounder, but I'll take his shot selection and his good attitude.

    I don't think either is a good defender, but Thompson does play his man a little more physical (which I usually prefer to a weakside defender).













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    Yea I like JT over JJ but id take a JJ over any backup we have.






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    Oh, I agree that JT is miles better than Hickson. But we used him poorly when he was here and then dumped him for literally nothing.






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    Quote Originally Posted by SactoIV View Post
    Oh, I agree that JT is miles better than Hickson. But we used him poorly when he was here and then dumped him for literally nothing.
    JT is our most consistent player and puts up decent numbers on a bad team.
    The fact is Portland has 3 nice pieces in Aldridge, Batum, and Lillard. Hickson is putting up those numbers is a credit to Stotts coaching staff, putting Hickson in areas of his strengths. He's an aggressive rebounder and gets alot of his points off second chance.

    I think it is indicative of how poor our coaching staff is. Robinson, while it's still early, is a bust.
    I keep on hoping that Petrie will still make a trade for Drummond. It would have been a much better fit next to Cousins. Our rebounding problems willl have been solved.

    Drummond is putting up 7-7 in less that 20 min work and shooting 57 percent.
    he's only 19, so his ceiling looks crazyy.






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    Hickson shot 37% with the Kings. That's the reason why he didn't play more, after the initial stretch to start the season.

    It isn't about Portland's coaching staff using him differently. The Kings tried that too.

    But instead of just sticking to 2nd chance points, Hickson was taking 19 footers.

    He himself was the reason he didn't play more, with his shot selection.


    Here are his numbers from Hoop Data:

    He couldn't hit from 10-15 feet, nor 16-23 feet, yet he kept trying.

    http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=J.J.%20Hickson


    He's also a poor defender. Portland's defense went from a DRTG of 106.2 to 107.2.


    Shot Locations At Rim 3-9 Feet 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet Threes
    Player Name Yr Tm Pos GP Min M A FG% %As M A FG% %As M A FG% %As M A FG% %As M A eFG% %As
    J.J. Hickson 2009 CLE PF 62 11.4 1.1 1.8 65.0 71.8 0.2 0.6 34.0 76.9 0.0 0.2 17.0 100.0 0.2 0.5 42.0 92.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    J.J. Hickson 2010 CLE PF 81 20.9 2.8 4.1 68.2 75.3 0.4 0.8 48.5 84.8 0.1 0.4 17.1 83.3 0.3 1.0 27.0 87.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    J.J. Hickson 2011 CLE PF 80 28.2 3.3 5.5 61.2 64.0 0.7 2.0 34.6 58.9 0.4 1.4 30.6 48.5 0.9 2.8 33.0 71.2 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0
    J.J. Hickson 2012 POR PF 19 31.5 3.8 6.1 62.9 57.5 1.3 1.9 66.7 50.0 0.2 0.9 22.2 50.0 0.9 2.5 38.0 66.7 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0
    J.J. Hickson 2012 SAC PF 35 18.4 0.9 1.7 50.8 61.3 0.4 0.9 39.4 76.9 0.2 0.8 22.2 50.0 0.4 1.5 29.0 66.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    J.J. Hickson 2013 POR C 22 28.2 3.5 5.5 63.3 59.2 0.4 1.0 34.8 37.5 0.5 0.8 64.7 54.5 0.6 1.1 52.0 69.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0













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