M.L.B. 2013

**Eze** · 12-04-2012, 02:08 PM

Depends on what the buyout is on the third year. Getting excessive tho.

No problems with the Pagan deal at all, especially given what Upton got.

**PackfanMatt_12** · 12-04-2012, 02:26 PM

agreed on Pagan although it sounds like it would just be a straight up 3 year deal

**Eze** · 12-04-2012, 02:55 PM

Bobby Evans (VP) said the Giants are preferring a two year deal with an option, so, hope it goes that way. Don't really want to see a 40 year old Scutaro out there, though, he could be an expensive bench bat in the final year in a worst case.

**PackfanMatt_12** · 12-04-2012, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Eze

Bobby Evans (VP) said the Giants are preferring a two year deal with an option, so, hope it goes that way. Don't really want to see a 40 year old Scutaro out there, though, he could be an expensive bench bat in the final year in a worst case.

yeah you are right my bad on that. It better be a 3rd year option

**PackfanMatt_12** · 12-04-2012, 03:36 PM

Red Sox sign Shane Victorino for 3 years 38M

**Eze** · 12-04-2012, 09:16 PM

Scutaro re-signs. Cards offered more annual salary, Giants caved and gave third year.

3 years, $20 million. Cards offered 2 years, $16+.

**nuraman00** · 12-04-2012, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Eze

Scutaro re-signs. Cards offered more annual salary, Giants caved and gave third year.

3 years, $20 million. Cards offered 2 years, $16+.

That's an ok deal. I wouldn't have liked the Cardinals deal as much, even though it's only $1M more.

**nuraman00** · 12-13-2012, 10:26 PM

**nuraman00** · 12-13-2012, 10:28 PM

Well, PackfanMatt_12's 2012 predicted WS of Angels vs. Giants may happen in 2013. I'm going to be mad if the Giants don't win. Their decision not to sigh Hamilton better not slap them in the face. I've been yearning for a back-to-back for 2 years, 1 month.

**nuraman00** · 12-13-2012, 10:37 PM

Brandon McCarthy signs with the Diamondbacks.

**PackfanMatt_12** · 12-13-2012, 10:58 PM

Re: Angels-Hamilton
1.) Hamilton in LA=horrible mess
2.) 5 year contract=HORRIBLE idea and length
3.) $125M=NO THANK YOU MR. INJURY PRONE COKE

**nuraman00** · 12-14-2012, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by PackfanMatt_12

Re: Angels-Hamilton
1.) Hamilton in LA=horrible mess
2.) 5 year contract=HORRIBLE idea and length
3.) $125M=NO THANK YOU MR. INJURY PRONE COKE

Why? It's still the AL at least. He's not changing leagues.

**PackfanMatt_12** · 12-14-2012, 08:05 AM

LA=massive media market. All the attention, focus and scrutiny will be on him. Also LA is one of the biggest drug capitals in the US

**nuraman00** · 12-14-2012, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by PackfanMatt_12

LA=massive media market. All the attention, focus and scrutiny will be on him. Also LA is one of the biggest drug capitals in the US

Link?

Neither Dallas nor Los Angeles are on here.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/20/nar...rugcities.html

**nuraman00** · 12-14-2012, 08:36 AM

All the attention won't be on Hamilton. They have Weaver and Pujols who are bigger stars. Or at least Pujols.

**nuraman00** · 12-14-2012, 08:41 AM

Well the Giants better sign a good RF. I didn't like Pence that much, but if they resign him and he plays well then I'll be ok.

Also, doesn't it look like my prediction for the A's offseason is coming true, when they let McCarthy go? (He was expensive, but still). They're losing key players from last year, as expected. Only with McCarthy it was via letting him walk, as opposed to a trade.

This is what I said:

Originally Posted by nuraman00

Damon Bruce called it the best season the A's have ever had, especially when put into the context of expectations.

However:

1) Lew Wolff still wants to move the team to San Jose.

2) Because of #1, Beane is going to change some of the core players, and get even younger assets for them.

I'm afraid the offseason isn't going to be fun, and this will be another once-in-six or seven years type thing.

While it was a fun season, just looking at the big picture, I don't think this will be a team that stays near the top for long. They can't hold off the Rangers and Angels forever.

In the long term sense, the failure to get the the WS is still a disappointment.

**Eze** · 12-14-2012, 08:43 AM

Pence is already signed - it's just an arbitration situation where they go to an arbitrator to decide his deal for the upcoming season if they can't do it themselves or work out a long term deal.

**nuraman00** · 12-14-2012, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Eze

Pence is already signed - it's just an arbitration situation where they go to an arbitrator to decide his deal for the upcoming season if they can't do it themselves or work out a long term deal.

So he's signed for 2013? But an arbitrator can decide on a new deal beyond that?