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Thread: Jeremy Hellickson is a gold glover.

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    Repping that Hoover High






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    Why were there 2 co-winners?






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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSacKing93 View Post
    Why were there 2 co-winners?
    I'm trying to find voting results.

    This doesn't have it.

    http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseb...ick-up/1259176













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    If I'm reading this right, the fans are allowed to vote for the finalists for all spots????


    EDIT: Ok, reading it again, they say fans vote for the PLATINUM Glove awards. I'm thinking these are the 2nd tier to GOLD Gloves. Kind of like NBA 1st team and NBA 2nd team.

    Here's another article about this PLATINUM voting thing.


    http://www2.tbo.com/news/rays/2012/o...ist-ar-547930/


    http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-re...-show-tuesday/













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    This says managers and coaches vote. Also a funny quote about Helli competing with David Price for awards.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...ews_tb&c_id=tb













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    Here's an article where they use Fan Graphs to grade the winners.

    For Hellickson, they graded his award with "Meh".

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...winner/page/10













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    Ok, I think this confirms how voting is done. So I think they ended up a tie because of these votes. Not a fans' votes.

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    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...ists-announced

    The voting is done by managers and up to six coaches on each manager's staff. They cannot vote for players on their own team.













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    Thanks for the articles, nuraman00.

    Rookie of the year in 2011, Gold Glove in 2012, I can think of an upgrade in 2013






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    Quote Originally Posted by nuraman00 View Post
    Here's an article where they use Fan Graphs to grade the winners.

    For Hellickson, they graded his award with "Meh".

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...winner/page/10
    Wow, Buehrle got an A+. But the writer didn't mention any of Hellickson's sabermetric stats, he just included Ricky Romero and Tommy Milone's.

    But I agree, it's tough to grade pitchers on defense alone. Romero having a bad record, playing on a mediocre team, and just being a bad pitcher this year is probably why he didn't win it, whereas Hellickson was a pretty good pitcher on a pretty good team, and he's also a young and upcoming pitcher (I guess you can make the same argument for Romero, but in 2012, Hellickson looked 'prettier'...that goes a long way in these votings..I mean who wants to give a great award to someone with a 9-14 record and 5.77 ERA






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    No one told me Darwin Barney also won a Gold Glove..nuraman00's favorite Cub






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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSacKing93 View Post
    Thanks for the articles, nuraman00.

    Your welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSacKing93 View Post

    Rookie of the year in 2011, Gold Glove in 2012, I can think of an upgrade in 2013
    I agree. He would look good winning the 2013 American League Rolaids Relief Pitcher Award

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    in conjunction with the Cy Young and MVP, of course.













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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSacKing93 View Post
    No one told me Darwin Barney also won a Gold Glove..nuraman00's favorite Cub
    It was G. Soto.













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    Soto was your favorite Cub because he would be the one catching (and calling the pitches) when Giants pitchers used to hit all those majestic homers off of us.






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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSacKing93 View Post
    Soto was your favorite Cub because he would be the one catching (and calling the pitches) when Giants pitchers used to hit all those majestic homers off of us.
    Lol.

    No, actually it was because I had Soto on m fantasy team.

    Jason Kendall was the one catching in the Cain HR game I went to.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00708230.shtml

    Also, I don't know if you remember my thread, but in 2008, I made a thread called "Why Brad Ziegler should be the ROY over G. Soto: An essay by nuraman00".

    And I pointed out how Ziegler had 17 games in which he did not give up a hit, aka "no-hitters".

    You then said "who are you trying to fool, nuraslick00? They don't call them no-hitters for pitching one inning."

    That was a good thread. You, as usual, gave me some laughs.













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    A new poster, levi1977, checked out this thread at 7:42PM. He/she must be interested in Hell Boy too.













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