Repping that Hoover High
Why were there 2 co-winners?
I'm trying to find voting results.Originally Posted by IowaSacKing93
This doesn't have it.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseb...ick-up/1259176
If I'm reading this right, the fans are allowed to vote for the finalists for all spots????
EDIT: Ok, reading it again, they say fans vote for the PLATINUM Glove awards. I'm thinking these are the 2nd tier to GOLD Gloves. Kind of like NBA 1st team and NBA 2nd team.
Here's another article about this PLATINUM voting thing.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/rays/2012/o...ist-ar-547930/
http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-re...-show-tuesday/
This says managers and coaches vote. Also a funny quote about Helli competing with David Price for awards.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...ews_tb&c_id=tb
Here's an article where they use Fan Graphs to grade the winners.
For Hellickson, they graded his award with "Meh".
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...winner/page/10
Ok, I think this confirms how voting is done. So I think they ended up a tie because of these votes. Not a fans' votes.
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http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/ey...ists-announced
The voting is done by managers and up to six coaches on each manager's staff. They cannot vote for players on their own team.
Thanks for the articles, nuraman00.
Rookie of the year in 2011, Gold Glove in 2012, I can think of an upgrade in 2013
Wow, Buehrle got an A+. But the writer didn't mention any of Hellickson's sabermetric stats, he just included Ricky Romero and Tommy Milone's.
But I agree, it's tough to grade pitchers on defense alone. Romero having a bad record, playing on a mediocre team, and just being a bad pitcher this year is probably why he didn't win it, whereas Hellickson was a pretty good pitcher on a pretty good team, and he's also a young and upcoming pitcher (I guess you can make the same argument for Romero, but in 2012, Hellickson looked 'prettier'...that goes a long way in these votings..I mean who wants to give a great award to someone with a 9-14 record and 5.77 ERA
No one told me Darwin Barney also won a Gold Glove..nuraman00's favorite Cub
Your welcome.Thanks for the articles, nuraman00.
I agree. He would look good winning the 2013 American League Rolaids Relief Pitcher Award
Rookie of the year in 2011, Gold Glove in 2012, I can think of an upgrade in 2013
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in conjunction with the Cy Young and MVP, of course.
It was G. Soto.
Soto was your favorite Cub because he would be the one catching (and calling the pitches) when Giants pitchers used to hit all those majestic homers off of us.
Lol.
No, actually it was because I had Soto on m fantasy team.
Jason Kendall was the one catching in the Cain HR game I went to.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00708230.shtml
Also, I don't know if you remember my thread, but in 2008, I made a thread called "Why Brad Ziegler should be the ROY over G. Soto: An essay by nuraman00".
And I pointed out how Ziegler had 17 games in which he did not give up a hit, aka "no-hitters".
You then said "who are you trying to fool, nuraslick00? They don't call them no-hitters for pitching one inning."
That was a good thread.
A new poster, levi1977, checked out this thread at 7:42PM. He/she must be interested in Hell Boy too.
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